File talk:Hyundai Pony Estate Tenerife.jpg

An amazing photo, Charles. The chance of actually seeing one of these in the wild today is probably about 0.0001%. Now if only you had also been willing to waste film on a shot from the rear... Mr.choppers (talk) 07:27, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Um ... glad you like it. To me it looks like the stylist bent over backwards to make the car look as ordinary as possible. But I did read or hear that when you find people very beautiful, that is because they are very ordinary looking - very short of unusual features on the bits of their bodies that you see. Still, that's not really my area of expertise. I suppose the slightly serious point that comes out of this is that there may even now be people contributing to wikipedia in Korean who could increase the choice of pictures of early Hyundais on Commons. How is your Korean? And the other thing about Hyundais is that for a time I think they were the best selling imported car in Canada. Though I guess it's not the sort of car that so many oldtimer collectors would choose to pamper. As for the back end, yes, I imagine that if you make a car look like that it's not too hard to design a back end to blend with it, and if I'd known then what I know now about wikipedia's preferences..... Though I'm always (as a general observation) struck by how many otherwise quite good looking cars manage to end up with back ends that look as though they were designed on a different planet from the rest of the vehicle. No further thoughts, but thank you for sharing your kind one (thought). Regards Charles01 (talk) 20:34, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

The Koreans have nearly zero interest in their own automotive history - there, an old car is nothing more than an old car. It's quite possible that none of these remain in their homeland, which is why your photo is so relevant. The Korean Wikipedia editors also see fit to use your photo, since they can offer nothing. The only car museum that I know of in South Korea is Samsung's tiny effort, with no more than twenty or so domestic cars - almost all of the cars shown there are imports. Thus you bring light to an otherwise benighted topic, thanks to your (previous self's) willingness to waste film on one of the most ordinary cars ever designed. The 'stylist', btw, was Giugiaro. Mr.choppers (talk) 06:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. Thanks. I suppose 100 years ago .... well 170 years ago .... we didn't have much time for museums at our end of Europe either. There are lots of grand museums in London, Vienna, Berne, Munich, Paris .... (don't remember about Stockholm) from the second half the the nineteenth century, but before that I guess people were mostly too busy staying alive.

Now you remind me of the Giugaro connection, of course I realize that the proportions are just perfect. It maybe still looks a bit as if it was designed to be easy to press the panels, like Michelotti's Triumph Herald and BMW 700 in the late 1950s. But no .... mow I find myself thinking VW Passat which at the time we certainly thought one of Giugaro's Meisterstrokes. Maybe still do. Regards Charles01 (talk) 12:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC)