File talk:Coat of arms of Brazil (official from www.gov.br).svg

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Color of the scroll/ribbon in the compartment

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Though it is true that the Government Portal and its attachments stated that the scroll/ribbon is sky blue (Azul Celeste - #007fff), and the crossguards/hilt is blau (#0000ff), it does not follow the provisions stated on Law n. 5,700/1971 (updated by Law n. 8,421/1992), that governs the national symbols. I have translated the relevant parts into English:

Article 8. The making of the National Arms must comply with the proportion of 15 (fifteen) in height by 14 (fourteen) in width, and comply with the following provisions:
I - the round shield will be made of a sky-blue field, containing five silver stars, arranged in the form of the Southern Cross constellation, with the outline of the field in gold, laden with silver stars in the same number as the stars on the National Flag;
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III - the entire display is pierced on a spiked sword, wielded in gold, blau crossguards, except for the center part, which is of gules and containing a silver star, will appear on a crown formed of a branch of fruited coffee, on the right, and another of flowered tobacco, to the sinister side, both of the same color, bound in blau, everything resting on a golden radiance, whose contours form a star with 20 (twenty) points; and
IV - on a blau scroll, pierced on the hilts of the sword, the motto "República Federativa do Brasil" will be inscribed in gold, in the center, as well as the expressions "15 de Novembro", at the right end, and the expressions "de 1889", on the sinister.

Thus, the text clearly differenciates sky-blue from blau and it purposely states that only the shield is sky-blue (item I), while rest of blue-colored elements (crossguards, band and, most importantly, the scroll) are blau (itens III and, especially, IV). The logic here also points to this conclusion, since the band that bounds the branches of coffee and tobacco is supposed to match the scroll. However, the Coat of Arms available on the website uses blau only on the crossguards and on the band, while using sky blue instead of blau on the scroll/ribbon.

Therefore, we can see there is a small discrepancy between the Coat of Arms available on the website and the one that is laid down on the law, so I made a small adjustment to the color of the scroll in order to fit with the other elements in blau, following the official description.

@: As long as you're ok with it, I'm going to revert the file back to the corrected version. Hookko27 (talk) 16:39, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point now. It would be better, however, if there is a photo of where the new logo is used in real life, like in a press release or some other government doc. Also, the file size of the new file more than doubled the original file size, when color changes should typically preserve the original file size. Designism (talk) 02:53, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Although there's this new Federal Government "official version", the use of the CoA on documents, websites, press releases and even flags isn't really standardized. Even the official presidential flag doesn't follow the official version displayed on the website. You can also check on the "other versions" tab to see what I'm talking about. Usually the public servant in charge just search "coat of arms of Brazil" on Google Images and put it in their documents. So what I tried to do was simply to use the closest "official" version and match it with the precise text of the law that regulates the CoA.
About the file size, I was the one that modified the original svg and I confess that I'm not the most experienced person, so feel free to optimize it. Hookko27 (talk) 12:47, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]