File talk:Cc-by-sa.svg

Free status

If this image is ever decided to be non-free, please place a request at w:WP:REFUND to undelete this item (w:File:Cc-by-sa.svg) for fair use. Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) 02:20, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

non-free work tagged as CC-BY-SA.

{{Edit request}} This file itself is not CC-BY-SA licensed; that license must not remain in place. The image has a gradient, which, as I understand it, places it out of the public domain. And the lawyers at Creative Commons clearly agree that it's NOT PD. Administrators, please fix this. We mustn't be telling people they're free to make derivative works when we know they're not, and by leaving this incorrectly tagged, we're doing exactly that - and indirectly causing liability for copyright infringement. Others agree.

My specific request (edited) is that the CC-BY-SA tag be removed immediately. What else needs to be done can be determined later. It may be best if this file is deleted and redirected to File:Cc-by-sa_(1).svg, which, like File:Commons-logo.svg, is, arguably, at least, PD-ineligible, and should be tagged thusly:

This work is ineligible for copyright and therefore in the public domain because it consists entirely of information that is common property and contains no original authorship.

(Like that or better yet, something like this (not debugged): {{tl:PD-ineligible|http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#May_I_use_the_Creative_Commons_logo_and_buttons.3F%7CCreative Commons|language code of the Wikipedia version which should say "You may download high resolution versions of the Creative Commons logos and use them in connection with your work or your website, provided you comply with our policies. Among other things, if you use the logos on a website or on your work, you may not alter the logos in any respect—such as by changing the font, the proportions, or the colors. CC's buttons, name, and corporate logo (the “CC” in a circle) are trademarks of Creative Commons. You cannot use them in ways not permitted by our policies unless you first receive express, written permission. This means, for example, that you cannot (without our permission) print your own buttons and t-shirts using CC logos, although you can purchase them in CC’s store."}}.)

PS to anyone ignorant of the fact that this file itself is not CC-BY-SA licensed, please cure your ignorance by reading this section of a key page on CC's website, which says in part, "you may not alter the logos in any respect." In addition, note that another part of that page says: "Creative Commons does not recommend using a CC license on a logo or trademark." Obviously, CC would not so blatantly and prominently violate its own advice with respect to its own logos. --Elvey (talk) 23:02, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

What about the Threshold of originality? The terms and conditions from CC may apply on the logos that seems above the TOO, but with the simplier ones (bellow the TOO) obviously don't; the CC Terms and conditions and its Lawyers can say anything, but the US Copyright Law is the US Copyrighta Law. Don't confuse Trademark restrictios with Copyright violations. --Amitie 10g (talk) 19:28, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Notice that this file (and the other CC icons) are used in License templates (and transcluded in thsousand and even million of pages) to indicate the licensing of the files, and therefore, meets the terms thata llows the ussage of these files. Anyway, this is currently discussed in the Village Pump. --Amitie 10g (talk) 16:29, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, TOO might save the file from deletion; reasonable minds can disagree on whether the gradient places it out of the public domain. Request modified. (Though PRP applies!) However:

You ignore the pressing concerns I raised. Nothing you've said changes these facts: This file itself is not CC-BY-SA licensed; that license must not remain in place. And the lawyers at Creative Commons clearly agree that it's NOT PD. Administrators, please fix this. We mustn't be telling people they're free to make derivative works when we know they're not, and by leaving this incorrectly tagged, we're doing exactly that - and indirectly causing liability for copyright infringement. Others agree.

Again, I ask that the CC-BY-SA tag be removed immediately. --Elvey (talk) 21:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

@Elvey:  Info I have requested edit unprotection on Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Blocks and protections#File:Cc-by-sa.svg and File:Cc-by-sa (1).svg. After unprotection you may apply your proposed changes to this file. Regards, ★Poké⁹⁵ 07:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Edit request fufilled, a while ago. The file is no longer marked as CC-licensed. Revent (talk) 18:37, 29 October 2015 (UTC)