File talk:CS gas, Operation Pershing, July 1967.jpg
XM16E1
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user:Tm prove that those are XM16E1s or remove the category. Mztourist (talk) 06:09, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- As you didn't bother answering me, while adding back overcategorisations to the image, I have removed the catgeory. Mztourist (talk) 03:21, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- User:Tm you have again restored [1] the XM16E1 category without proving that those are XM16E1s. Your explanation "already aswered to death in user talkpage" has no merit. Mztourist (talk) 03:47, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Already answered to death in your own talkpage by me and other user and it is only you that do not want to hear, so prove that those are not XM16E1s. Tm (talk) 04:57, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- No Tm you haven't answered anything on my Talk Page. You cannot see anything on this image that proves (flash suppressor, magazine release guard) those are XM16E1s rather than M16A1s. As you are adding the category, the burden of proof is on you to show those rifles are XM16E1s. Mztourist (talk) 09:08, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- As you are deleting the category, the burden of proof is on you to show those rifles are not XM16E1s Tm (talk) 13:30, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- No Tm, I deleted it after User:Dvaderv2 added it, you added it back, the burden is on you. Please answer me and Hohum. Mztourist (talk) 03:22, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- IMO the flash hider doesn't look three pronged, and all other visual identification cues aren't clear enough. What criteria are you using to prove this is an XM16E1? Hohum (talk) 21:43, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- User:Hohum User:Mztourist Looking at the date, these might well be fully-fledged M16A1s (the type was first issued in February 1967, while this photograph was taken in July 1967). That said, I am a bit suspicious about the flash-hider on the rifle held by the foremost gas-masked soldier (unless this is the one you're referring to, in which case, well, whoops and sorry). - Dvaderv2 (talk) 14:17, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't see that that is a three pronged flash suppressor. Mztourist (talk) 03:09, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
- User:Hohum User:Mztourist Looking at the date, these might well be fully-fledged M16A1s (the type was first issued in February 1967, while this photograph was taken in July 1967). That said, I am a bit suspicious about the flash-hider on the rifle held by the foremost gas-masked soldier (unless this is the one you're referring to, in which case, well, whoops and sorry). - Dvaderv2 (talk) 14:17, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
- As you are deleting the category, the burden of proof is on you to show those rifles are not XM16E1s Tm (talk) 13:30, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- No Tm you haven't answered anything on my Talk Page. You cannot see anything on this image that proves (flash suppressor, magazine release guard) those are XM16E1s rather than M16A1s. As you are adding the category, the burden of proof is on you to show those rifles are XM16E1s. Mztourist (talk) 09:08, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Already answered to death in your own talkpage by me and other user and it is only you that do not want to hear, so prove that those are not XM16E1s. Tm (talk) 04:57, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- User:Tm you have again restored [1] the XM16E1 category without proving that those are XM16E1s. Your explanation "already aswered to death in user talkpage" has no merit. Mztourist (talk) 03:47, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
![[1]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ACS_gas%2C_Operation_Pershing%2C_July_1967.jpg&oldid=prev&diff=739491916&diffmode=source){kind=link}
Overcat
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User:Tm you have again overcategorised this page. Category:Male Soldiers, all of the Category: 1st Cavalry Division (United States) in the Vietnam War was comprised entirely of Male Soldiers. Category:Males with helmets, soldiers wear helmets, how is this in any way useful? Are you going to categorise pretty much every single military photo since WWI this way? Category:Military people of the United States in 1967, all US military forces in Vietnam in 1967 would fall within this category, does it add anything? Category:20th-century men of the United States, how is this in any way useful? This category could be applied to every single photo of Americans in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam etc. what's the point? Category:United States Army soldiers is higher up the category tree above Category: 1st Cavalry Division (United States) in the Vietnam War, it shouldn't be repeated here. Category:United States military people of the Vietnam War, this category is supposed to be used for identifiable individuals from the war, not as a generic tag to be applied to every photo of the war that includes an American in it. Please use some commonsense rather than adding categories just because a category exists. Mztourist (talk) 03:17, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- These are not redudant categories, so dont remove them. Tm (talk) 11:10, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yes they clearly are, but as you have chosen to continue to editwar over XM16E1 categorisation this is back at User Problems. Mztourist (talk) 07:08, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
