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As stated in reversion
[edit]I have just come onto this map, however, it's clear to me that the independence of Kosovo should have at least UN sanction before this map receives it. An independent Kosovo itself should be the variant, as this sanction does not (yet) exist. Patstuart (talk) 19:32, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree. The status of Palestine and the Western Sahara is similarily unresolved, and nonetheless, those territories are shown as distinct on all of our maps -- per that precedent, Kosovo should have separate borders. —Nightstallion (?) 21:57, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- What does the UN say about these territories? Patstuart (talk) 22:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- That their status is unresolved -- same as Kosovo...
- In detail: There's a mission, en:MINURSO, in Western Sahara which should be preparing a referendum on independence/autonomy/integration, but Morocco is obstructing the vote since it doesn't want to have independence as an option, and I'm sure you're well aware of the situation in Palestine. I'm fairly certain we can consider Kosovo a similar case (and distinct from Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Transnistria, ... -- they all have no recognition at all, while Kosovo has limited recognition like Palestine and the en:Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic which claims the territory of the Western Sahara). —Nightstallion (?) 22:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- I would not consider it a similar case, necessarily, as it appears the majority of world governments have yet to recognize the state, and its status is still up for question. Were this not a recent development, perhaps we should consider it, but it could still go in either direction. Western Sahara and Palestine, on the other hand, appear to have at least some form of recognition by most governments, and are a situation that will not be resolved any time soon. I guess the question should be: who is the de facto government in the territory? Patstuart (talk) 00:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- Western Sahara is not more or less recognised than Kosovo -- right now, they've got recognition by about 40 states. Western Sahara is as likely to be resolved as Kosovo, if you ask me -- and if we're going by the de facto authorities, then we *have* to have Kosovo's borders on the map, as the Kosovan government has complete control except for the extreme north, where UNMIK and KFOR are nonetheless enforcing the border with Serbia... —Nightstallion (?) 09:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- I would not consider it a similar case, necessarily, as it appears the majority of world governments have yet to recognize the state, and its status is still up for question. Were this not a recent development, perhaps we should consider it, but it could still go in either direction. Western Sahara and Palestine, on the other hand, appear to have at least some form of recognition by most governments, and are a situation that will not be resolved any time soon. I guess the question should be: who is the de facto government in the territory? Patstuart (talk) 00:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- What does the UN say about these territories? Patstuart (talk) 22:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)