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- So, you suggest the idea some individuals to have separated scopes for, let's say, every period of their life? Would you accept the generalized scope name: «Elisabeth of Austria - Sisi» ?--MrPanyGoff 14:28, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- You understand me very well, dear ;)... Your picture does not show an "Empress of Austria", but a "Queen of Hungary", I don't say nothing else. You know what ? The scope Sisi should be sufficient for me ! Or you use a very short scope, or you use the long one, to be complete (maybe Elisabeth of Wittelsbach, duchess in Bavaria, Empress of Austria, Queen of Hungary and Bohemia, Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Galicia, Lodomeria and Illyria ; Queen of Jerusalem ; Archduchess of Austria ; Grand-duchess of Tuscany and Cracovia; Duchess of Lorraine, Salzbourg, Würzburg, Franconia, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola and Bukovine ; Grand princess of Transylvania ; Margravin of Moravia ; Duchess of Upper and Lower Silesia, of Modena, Parma, Piacenza and Guastalla, of Auschwitz and Zator, Teschen, Friul, Ragusa and Zara ; Countess-princess of Habsbourg and Tyrol, Kybourg, Gorizia and Gradisca ; Princess of Trenta and Brixen, Berchtesgaden and Mergentheim ; Margravin of Upper and Lower Lusatia, Margravin in Istria ; Countess of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, and Sonneberg ; Dame of Trieste, Kotor and Windischgraetz ; Grand voïvoda of Voïvodia of Serbia), but maybe it is a bit long... Well. Elisabeth of Habsbourg-Lorraine as family name after wedding, is good too.--Jebulon (talk) 16:02, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Scope changed from Empress Elisabeth of Austria - Sisi to Elisabeth of Austria - Sisi --MrPanyGoff 16:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Scope changed from Elisabeth of Austria - Sisi to Elisabeth of Bavaria - Sisi --MrPanyGoff 06:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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 Comment i'm terribly sorry again. As she was not a direct member of the royal family of Bavaria, she never was named Elisabeth OF Bavaria (von Bayern), but she had the courtesy title of Duchess IN Bavaria (in Bayern). You may read this, for instance, on the signboard in front of her sarcophagus, recently promoted as VI.--Jebulon (talk) 12:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Considering the meaning of this project: Elisabeth of Austria - Sisi or Elisabeth of Bavaria - Sisi are the only good and legitimate names for this scope. 98% of the wikipedia articles use one of these names. All other names just going to mislead the audience since they are not so popular. So please, choose one of the two suggested titles and stop the intentionaly spaming the project. Actually there is one more possibility: Elisabeth of Austria-Hungary - Sisi, there are two or three articles named with this title. So these are the 3 names under which this person is known. --MrPanyGoff 13:25, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The name Élisabeth de Wittelsbach is used in only one wiki article and this article is under a serious suspicion since there are a lot of issues standing in the lead of it.--MrPanyGoff 13:41, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- -First, please notice I'm only trying to do here the best job possible.
- -Considering the meaning of this project, which is trying to build something encyclopedic enough, your suggestions are not the only good nor legitimates names for this scope, sorry. Please, DO NOT accuse me of intentionaly spaming only because I disagree for parts with you, and because I'm trying to be as precise as possible.
- -The so-called suspicion about the french WP article does not concern the title of it, which is not discussed in the related discussion page (I may put moreover a banner too, or discuss the names of other articles in other wp, it has not a very high significance, it's a wiki !). By the way, in my poor opinion, the banners of suspicion are very severe and a bit excessive (they are essentially for -relative- lack of sources, and wiki-style).
- -Elisabeth of Austria - Sisi is not admissible as scope because you show a picture of Erzsébet kiralyne, name of the photo/file, meaning in magyar "QUEEN Elisabeth", not "EMPRESS", and queen is for Hungary, please see argumentation above, and please read this if you are interested about this sensitive issue (and why this picture is important for the hungarian history of the year 1867).
- -Elisabeth of Bavaria - Sisi is not admissible as scope simply because she has never borne that name. ([see here], in french, sorry, and here, for note and signboard.).
- -Elisabeth of Austria-Hungary - Sisi is admissible by me as a good enough compromise: it is good for the person, and good for the special picture too. I'd support this one.
- I'm afraid I can't add nothing more in this discussion, my intention was not to generate a conflict--Jebulon (talk) 23:07, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Scope changed from Elisabeth of Bavaria - Sisi to Elisabeth of Austria-Hungary - Sisi --MrPanyGoff 09:23, 20 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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