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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 13 Jun 2024 at 01:41:47
Info all by Łukasz [Wolf] Golowanow (talk). Commons:Featured_pictures/Objects/Vehicles/Air_transport#Military_jet_aircraft. Not very sharp. Compare to this image by the same author, which is better in every way: File:F-16_Demo_Team_2722.jpg (Original nomination)
Delist -- Schierbecker (talk) 01:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Keep (was: {{FPX}}) Sorry, but only two active nominations by the same user are allowed. – Aristeas (talk) 07:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Comment @Aristeas: this is not exactly a nomination. 2804:14D:5C32:4673:DA2:DE21:DDC8:DCF1 04:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment We often say that images are “nominated for delisting” and AFAICR apply the “only two nominations” limit also to delist nominations. However I would be happy to learn that I am wrong.
- Asking some users which were especially interested in rule discussions in the past – @A.Savin, Basile Morin, Charlesjsharp, Rhododendrites, W.carter – and everybody else with FPC experience: Would you say that the “only two active nominations by the same user” limit applies also to delist nominations (as I have assumed here) or would you say that one can nominate as many images for delisting as one wants?
- I would argue that the limit should also apply to delist nominations.
- Formal argument: the rules say “The delisting rules are the same as those for FPs, with voting taking place over the same time period”, so if not stated differently the two nominations limit should also apply to delist nominations.
- Material argument: In past discussions the limit has often been justified by emphasizing (1) that nominations must be discussed carefully (we want quality, not quantity); and (2) that the FP maintenance resources are very limited. IMHO both points apply even a fortiori to delist nominations: (1) they certainly need an especially careful discussion (we all want to avoid arbitrary delisting) and (2) they mean even more work for us maintainers than normal nominations – delisting a FP always requires misc. manual edits.
- How do you see this? Thank you very much for your statements! Best, – Aristeas (talk) 05:35, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- As I recall we've had a few discussions about how many delists should be allowed and always come back to the "Delists are the same as normal nominations". Mostly for the reasons that people have such mixed feelings about having delists at all, and that there is so much work in closing them and only a few users know how to do it properly, since it's all done manually.
- But since this question pops up from time to time, perhaps we should add a word or two to the rules to clarify this. Such discussions belong on the FPC talk page, not on a nom since it requires input from the community. I suggest you copy these comments to that page and let the discussion continue there. --Cart (talk) 07:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- You are so right, Cart. We need a general discussion in order to amend the rules with an explicit rule for this case. Please continue the rules discussion on the FPC talk page. Thank you everybody! – Aristeas (talk) 08:19, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Reading more carefully, the two-delist-rule is written in the delist rules: "There is a limit of two active delisting nominations per user, which is in addition to the limit of two active regular nominations.". Admittedly the sentence could be placed better (see FPC talk page), but this is a clear {{FPD}}. --Cart (talk) 11:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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Nomination denied. Thank you for nominating this image. Unfortunately, it does not fall within the Guidelines because only two active nominations per user are allowed. |
