Oppose. Almost excellent image but the stair like diagonal lines bother me. Shouldn't be hard to fix. Once that is done consider this a support vote. --Catout 16:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)Support I guess it isn't fixable and not too important since a rendering issue. Wouldn't look bad on an article. I would suggest rottaing the image by 45 degrees so the object is diagonal. That would give it more room for length. --Catout14:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I looks like error in rendering. It's not because wrong control points, nor line properties. I've checked SVG source and it looks OK, maybe someone have any ideas? --WarX18:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose proportions are off, which makes it look cartoonish. See [1] for a photo from a similar perspective. (another photo) The tube is too thick, the slide is too short, and the curve at the front of the slide is not right... it's not just a simple single-radius curve (should look like [2]). Looks more like an alto trombone than a tenor trombone (as the description says). I understand that these are things non-musicians might not pick up on, but I strongly believe inaccurate images should not be featured. I would support this with modifications, because artistically it's well executed. The artist needs to look at a few more source images instead of just trying to copy an old engraving. – flamurai22:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Thank you for your opinion and examples - I tried to fix the problems with front curve and tube. About the length of instrument - of course it was too short. After my expiriences with piano, I think that very wide pictures somtimes doesn't look good in articles, and in general there must by very large size of picture used, to show all details and numbering (please, see below) - so I "cutted" the main slide of trombone, and place the smaller picture of instrument in real proportions. Maybe that will be better? Orem00:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Can't comment on Flamurai's points, but also the numbering is too small, it won't be readable on a 190px width thumb (the default size) in a wiki article (see above right) - MPF23:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Thumb default size can be changed in preferences and as far as I know (especially on pl.wiki) nobody uses default settings, but tunes them to get desired effect! Rotating 90 degrees ccw crashes your smallnes argument :P --WarX00:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That's a rather bold statement! Have you asked everyone, including those who don't have a member page but just log on from an IP number? Rotating the image 90° would indeed solve the problem, but it hasn't been done, and if done, would need further editing so that the numbers weren't sideways - MPF14:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I can see no reason why the number size shouldn't be increased to the size (relative to the trombone) shown in the edited version right. There is space for it, or for even larger numbering. If that's done, then I could support. - MPF15:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I considered the enlargment of numbers, but I don't think it's very good idea - numbers on image page would be too big. I know, that you probably won't be satisfied - but please note that schemes like this in general have to be used in larger size - because in the default size, smaller elements of picture are hard to see. So, it should be used in articles as wide, as is needed to see the small elements. That's why I "cutted" the instrument, to make the picture not so wide, and why IMO larger numbers are not necessary. Please, look at article about piano on pl-wiki, there are examples (also with small numbers). Orem16:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support change my vote to support based on new image. (I'd still like to see the front of the slide tweaked if possible... I think you need to use a custom path to get it perfect.) – flamurai09:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Support but i notice imperfections in perspective. Transverse parts like 6 & 7, but also smaller ones looks like in the plane of the image Tatoute09:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Info Drawn and uploaded by Orem, inspired and nominated by WarX
Support --WarX 11:53, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Oppose. Almost excellent image but the stair like diagonal lines bother me. Shouldn't be hard to fix. Once that is done consider this a support vote. --Cat out 16:27, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Comment I looks like error in rendering. It's not because wrong control points, nor line properties. I've checked SVG source and it looks OK, maybe someone have any ideas? --WarX 18:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
![[1]](http://www.grahamnasby.com/misc/images_concertband/trombone.gif){kind=link}
![[2]](http://www.jonfrancis.com/edwards-trombone/pictures/P1010023.JPG){kind=link}
