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Image:Striped eel catfish, Plotosus lineatus - not featured

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Striped eel catfish, Plotosus lineatus Striped eel catfish, Plotosus lineatus

  •  Info created, uploaded and nominated by Jnpet --Jnpet 08:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Jnpet 08:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Interesting composition, almost like a Escher's repetitive pattern. But picture is unfocused and noisy. - Alvesgaspar 08:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    •  InfoThanks, I appreciate the critique. I'm a bit confused though. My understanding is that this is a forum to provide material which could be useful to creating informative wikipedia articles. This picture show how tightly bundled this school of striped eel catfish is. This is in fact the way they school in the wild, especially the juveniles. Hence the "noise" is intentional to show this behavior. As for the focus, I think the nearest catfish are in focus and you can clearly count the eight barbels which also identifies these to be catfish. The out of focus catfish in the back of the school also adds to the "noise". I would be happy to take any suggestions as to how this could be improved. Perhaps cropping it? Jnpet 15:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      Just to point that out: Commons are not just for providing material for wikipedia, but for all wikimedia projects. In addition: It would be nice, if you could provide this additional information here on the image description page, too. Kindly, norro 13:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment In this context (digital photography) "noise" doesn't mean "confusion" but the presence of random coloured "grain" and artifacts caused by the camera sensor or the file compressing process. This is most common in the parts of the image less iluminated. To have all the fish focused it would be necessary to use a smaller lens aperture in order to have a larger depth-of-field. I don't think cropping would solve the problem. - Alvesgaspar 23:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose small DOF and very confusing norro 13:15, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I really appreciate everyone's input. I'm not necesarilly new to photography, but I am somewhat new to underwater photography, which I find can be somewhat challenging at times. Under water, things appear to be bigger than they actually are, an optical illusion caused by the water itself, so when focusing on something it can be a bit difficult to find the right focus to click, especially when you are looking into a tiny digital window when placing the subject in the frame. Light is another problem, the water naturally filters out colors and the deeper you go, the bluer it gets. Reds are the first to go and so you need to have flash to bring out the colors. But the flash has a tendency to white out underwater as the water itself reflects the flash. Best way to counter this is to use a strobe light, an expensive bit of equipment I have yet to invest in. Random colored grains was mentioned, this could be things floating in the water. It could be plankton or sand and it's not always possible to control. From this and the other two pictures I have submitted so far it seems DOF is my biggest correctable problem. I'm somewhat limited to the lens I have for the camera, as it's put in a water proof casing, however, I'm thinking that perhaps I am better off shooting on wide focus, then crop the picture afterwards. Some of the subjects are very small, and I'm not sure how well they will show. At any rate, I have a few more shots of some unusual creatures, which I hope will be useful to Wiki and all its projects, which I'll be submitting over the next few weeks and look forward to the input. Jnpet 02:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Tomascastelazo 22:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Sufficient DOF for me - some fish in the front are really sharp. -- Lerdsuwa 18:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Agree--Lmbuga gl, pt, es: contacta comigo 22:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose I've seen much better, sadly not on commons yet... -- Lycaon 00:08, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I added a different image of the same subject. Is the second one better than the first? Jnpet 01:16, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply] 
 4 support, 3 oppose >> not featured Alvesgaspar 08:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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