Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:US Flag Backlit.jpg

File:US Flag Backlit.jpg, not featured

Voting period ends on 22 Mar 2009 at 15:45:44

•  Info created, uploaded, nominated by Jnn13 -- Jnn13 (talk) 15:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Support -- Jnn13 (talk) 15:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Support Technically very good. →Diti the penguin — 16:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Oppose - No national flags, please -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 17:57, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

  Why not? Plrk (talk) 19:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

  Don't we already have an american flag as an FP (possibly with a fighter airplane in the background)? --Aqwis (talk) 11:08, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

•  Comment - This is where I withdrew the photo, but I changed my mind. Hope you like!!

 Question …Why did you withdraw it? →Diti the penguin — 08:21, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

 Comment - I was unsure about posting a national flag to begin with, and then a user with far more FP, VI and QI than me opposed the photo for just that reason. I posted this photo in the Commons:Photography critiques area and asked about this very issue. If I do change my mind, can I re-submit, or un-withdraw?

•  Comment -- Of course you can, that was just my opinion! There is usually so much more beyond the pure pictorial aspect of a national flag that I always defended that they should not be featured. As far as I know no one succeded until now. -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 21:54, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Comment - Thanks for clarifying. But if you like the photo, not the subject, then how about a Neutral? Jnn13 (talk) 04:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Comment - Consider it un-withdrawn. I just removed the Withdrawal above (not sure how else to do it?) Thanks!! Jnn13 (talk) 04:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Support Simply because a flag can have nationalistic connotations is not, I feel, a valid reason to oppose it. Whether it's a US, Pakistani, Indian, Palestinian or Nazi flag makes no difference to me. Supporting the picture does not mean that I support the ideals, views or otherwise of the people whom the flag represents. Let me put it this way; bugs carry disease and pestilence. Does that make it right to oppose a bug photo? Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 09:17, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Oppose - No national flags, please -- Lycaon (talk) 13:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

  Why not? Plrk (talk) 18:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

•  Comment - "Censorship - noun - the practice of officially examining books, movies, etc., and suppressing unacceptable parts," Mac OS X Dictionary, Version 1.0.2. Jnn13 (talk) 14:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Oppose as others -- Dcubillas (talk) 14:18, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Comment File:Apollo 15 flag, rover, LM, Irwin.jpg, File:US Capitol dome Jan 2006.jpg, File:Reichstag pano.jpg Jnn13 (talk) 15:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Support --Phil13 (talk) 01:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Oppose - GerardM (talk) 08:26, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
  • Please motivate your oppose. →Diti the penguin — 22:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Support —kallerna™ 08:36, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Support--Mbz1 (talk) 14:42, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Oppose No national flags, please. --Karel (talk) 15:55, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

  Why not? Plrk (talk) 18:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

•  Support Very nice. --norro 23:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Oppose regardless of subject, I don't like the perspective or composition. I find it glary, and the shadowing doesn't help. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Support After some thought, and considering visual appeal. --Tomascastelazo (talk) 22:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Oppose composition doesn't convince me --AngMoKio (talk) 18:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Support - Good. -- Pro2 (talk) 21:50, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
•  Oppose No national flags, please. --AM (talk) 14:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Is it really too much to ask for an explanation of this ludicrous policy? Is it even a policy? Nowhere in the FP guidelines can I find a section stating that flags cannot/should not be nominated. Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 14:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 Comment FPCs rejected: Flag1, Flag2, Flag3 Jnn13 (talk) 23:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 Comment I notice none of those flags were rejected, simply because they were national flags. Can someone explain the current policy then? Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 14:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

It is not a policy, it is a suggestion. Some contributors don't like flaunting national symbols on the main page, that's all there is to it. Lycaon (talk) 14:32, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I feel that my previous arguement applies in this case as well. I'm not particularly fond of some of the images that get promoted, but I don't let that stop me from appreciating their quality, usefulness and the thoughts they make me think. As for 'flaunting'...isn't that dramatising it a little much? This is starting to sound like the talk page of Clitoris, or some such Wikipedia article. Wikipedia isn't censored (I hate to use the word), and neither, I believe, is Commons. Is there any other reason, aside from the faint possibility of damaged viewers, to oppose what is, to my view, a well composed and interesting image? Sarcastic ShockwaveLover (talk) 15:33, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

•  Oppose The sunlight from the blue sky coming through the stars on the beautiful USA flag — God bless America! That's the explanation I think ;) Maybe I'd support if it's categorized as propaganda. --Lošmi (talk) 16:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

result: 9 support, 9 oppose, 0 neutral => not featured. --Karel (talk) 20:43, 23 March 2009 (UTC)