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File:Santa Cristina (Parma) - Ceiling.jpg, not featured

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Santa Cristina (Parma) - Ceiling
Mona Lisa, by Leonardo da Vinci, from C2RMF retouched.jpg

- Benh (talk) 05:05, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Discussion on behaviour
::@Benh: What's your problem with Livio? This vote is just rude, and out of the three votes you've got on this page, two are opposes of Livios FPCs. Other than that you've commented contradicting one of Livio's votes and not done much else. Why don't you get a life and stop following Livio around? It's getting tedious to see you on every single FPC of Livio's trying to insult him and start problems with him. If you opposed other FPCs or even regularly voted on other FPCs by different photographers, I wouldn't say anything, but you don't even try to hide that you're targeting him. INeverCry 06:05, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to say that, but the problem with Livio is that he's reacting very rude everytime someone opposes one of his nominations. This is why I personally stopped voting on his nominations (with one little exception), but I don't know if "stop following Livio around" really is a solution. I believe that many of his nominations pass FPC simply because there are users who don't oppose just because they don't want to get insulted by Livio. Regarding the picture Benh has clearly a point here. --Code (talk) 09:01, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[unindent] Comment - My take on this is that Benh is clearly being sarcastic, which in my opinion is unnecessary. But otherwise, I think any objective person, such as a person new to FPC (which I was a few months ago) will clearly see that Livio often is abusive toward people who oppose features for his pictures. Not everyone - he has yet to abuse me for opposing his pictures, because I sometimes support them. But I think it's quite unfortunate that intemperate behavior on FPC is tolerated. And by "tolerated", I mean that users evidently have wide latitude to be unduly personally indignant over negative reviews and react abusively without consequences such as suspension of posting privileges. But as for people not opposing in order to avoid an intemperate remark: Please, go ahead and oppose if you think it's warranted, and feel free to ignore the response; it won't kill you. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:22, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ikan Kekek being you new does not know many things to people who are here for years. You say that often exaggerate, perfect do examples please .You do not speak at random thanks. Besides read before writing, Benh on 3 votes at least 2 are oppositions to my photos and has never voted for. Gently tries to be precise since you're here recently but talk like you know all thanks.--LivioAndronico (talk) 22:37, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment - I don't have to have been here for a long time to see abusive remarks that wouldn't be tolerated as a pattern on Wikivoyage. I should know, as I'm an admin at Wikivoyage. I'm not going to waste my time giving examples, as any observer can see that you often lash out at people for opposing. It's certainly possible that because I'm new, I missed some previous history of those people abusing you, but the things you object to as non-factual are usually matters of opinion, and moreover, your reactions are in many cases extreme and very unpleasant. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:30, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment unpleasant? ONLY COME HERE TO OPPOSE TO YOUR PHOTOS AND PLEASANT FOR YOU? Inventing REASONS ABSURD is PLEASANT FOR YOU? But at least you read read what I write? if this is agreeable to you means you're a masochist, well I do not! Try to look at everything, not just what you want to see, thank you.--LivioAndronico (talk) 09:19, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment It is absolutely not true. I have never had a fight with Daniel, Never cry and you too if the opposition is "normal" without insulting and without inventing reasons to oppose. You and also Behn you're opposites in a "normal" to the nomination which is not passed by a single vote. I did complain or say anything? Another untruth is that if the nomination passes is because they vote support. If they had "fear" not vote support. Kindly answer me, thanks.--LivioAndronico (talk) 09:25, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment moreover, and then the finish, the opposition says "not complete" and not centered, is such a thing invented .... what's missing?--LivioAndronico (talk) 09:58, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't fully understand you, sorry. What question should I answer? Concerning the picture: For my taste it's partly too dark and the white balance seems to be wrong. Moreover I think that you often add too much contrast and clarity for my taste. The top part shows some CA and is blurry, at the bottom the crop is unfortunate. However, I'm not going to vote because I don't want you to say that I only oppose your nominations. To make it clear: I would be happy to give you a support vote. It's just that your actual nominations aren't reaching the FP treshold in my opinion. I know that others think different and I completely respect their votes, of course. --Code (talk) 10:17, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you keep changing the subject? I asked you
1) if it's incomplete what's missing ???
2)The last time you voted contrary I have told you something? I complained?
and finally
3)if people had fear why vote in support?
The rest is a personal opinion,thanks --LivioAndronico (talk) 11:19, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Code? Where is the Behn 's lawyer? --LivioAndronico (talk) 19:59, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's funny that you don't even recognize that this is exactly the behaviour I was complaining about. However, to give it a last try: I didn't "change the subject" at all. I tried to answer your questions as good as I could. But again: 1) I told you what's missing (at least part at the bottom but after having a second look I think that on both sides the crop is too tight as well). 2) You didn't complain last time I opposed but you've often complained about my (and other users') votes in the past. I'm not going to waste my time searching for difflinks, everybody here knows what I'm talking about. 3) I don't know why so many users support each and every of your nominations. Maybe their taste is just very different from mine. Maybe there are other reasons. BTW, in my opinion the standards here at FPC have lowered in the last months but maybe I'm wrong with that. --Code (talk) 05:12, 29 July 2016 (UTC) [reply]
Maybe you’re wrong but then I’m wrong the same way. There are voters who appear to support any pic which is just nice, and well exposed. We used to look for outstanding, exceptional images which are more than just well done. This one isn’t even well lit! That’s what I meant recently by "the FP star is losing its meaning for me". --Kreuzschnabel 06:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Code or you do not understand or want to understand ..... you defend Behn but changes the subject. I do not give a damn about the quality of the images we are talking about something else, that is, people who vote negatively on my pictures and stop. Of course if you tell me crap I have to defend myself in my part so, maybe from your not. The photos maybe missing a part? Can not you see what ridiculous? Maybe? Tries to be serious and bring evidence that even I have time to waste with you or other false things!--LivioAndronico (talk) 07:45, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It was perfectly clear from the very beginning that this discussion would lead to nowhere. Lesson learned, thank you. --Code (talk) 07:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome --LivioAndronico (talk) 09:25, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't expect all this fuss. User:INeverCry, you won't drag me there. Just get back to me when I do something against the rules, and get back to photography which is the topic here. My oppose is valid (seriously, a cropped subject?). Period. - Benh (talk) 08:03, 1 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
certainly Benh it is true that you are a rude. Why do not you put some pictures and see what you can do? it's nice to criticize when you do not do anything else.--LivioAndronico (talk) 06:08, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
LivioAndronico, not sure you r really interested, but you are free to look at them on Flickr. And btw, FPC is not a contest... I'm not after these stars anymore, it's lost its meaning a long time ago. - Benh (talk) 10:01, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
SureBenh as we wanted to prove .... bla bla bla. You are good only to criticize and nothing more. Sad!--LivioAndronico (talk) 18:47, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Sorry, the light is too uneven so it looses some of the wow for me, there is also some CA at the top grate/window that should have been taken care of prior to nominating. w.carter-Talk 12:51, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 7 support, 5 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /INeverCry 20:08, 5 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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