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File:Ponte Barca Abril 2019-1a.jpg, not featured
[edit]Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 18 May 2019 at 13:19:07 (UTC)
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture/Bridges
- Info View of River Lima and bridge, in Ponte da Barca, Portugal. All by Alvesgaspar (talk) 13:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 13:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- Piotr Bart (talk) 17:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
SupportPoco2 17:26, 9 May 2019 (UTC)- Oppose After a new review: moving to neutral due to the sky colors. I'd change back to support if fixed. Poco2 07:01, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 17:58, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Support-- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)- Support I like the subtle blue light. A lesser photographer would be tempted to push up the saturation, but this strikes just the right balance for me. Cmao20 (talk) 19:27, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Cvmontuy (talk) 19:35, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment To me there is something off with the color scheme of the photo. The blue tint looks at odds with the more day-time color of the sky. I went to the exif to see if it would make me any wiser, but really not since it was rather incomplete. Is this really taken at 21:30? But looking at the exif, I noticed that the color space was uncalibrated (oh god, I'm beginning to sound like Colin!). Maybe that is what's causing the strange color. --Cart (talk) 19:46, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Info -- Very sorry, this was taken in the morning, around 10.00. It seems that Hugin ruined the Exif file and I don't know know how to fix it... -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 20:01, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- One easy way of getting the exif right when you do a panorama, is to simply take one of the photos in the panorama, make it as large as the panorama in an ordinary post-processing program, add the panorama as a layer and merge. That way you get all the right exif from at least one of the photos. It is usually more right than the strange things the pano-making give you. I usually do so with my panos, example. You could do that and upload the file on top of this. Change a pixel somewhere so the auto-blocking doesn't complain about uploading the "same" file. --Cart (talk) 20:13, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- 🇪A〒ℂ🇭A 💬 20:38, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I got the feeling the colors are off (too much green, sky and trees very unnatural looking) before reading the comments above. In Photoshop I need to push Cyan to Red by at east 25 % to get it looking realistic. – Lucas 20:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- It could be the uncalibrated color space playing tricks with all of us. I'd like to see that resolved first. --Cart (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support --BoothSift 22:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment To examine the EXIF data (included any embedded colour profile) of an image on Commons, it is handy to follow the steps at Commons talk:Featured picture candidates/Archive 19#Jeffrey's Image Metadata Viewer where Christian Ferrer has written a little script to add a link to an online tool. If you examine this image then it does actually have an embedded sRGB colour profile. I'm not sure why Cart doesn't see one, and there's only one version of the file. Perhaps you could check again? Alvesgaspar, I wonder what profile you used when exporting your images as files for Hugin to assemble. Did you save them all with sRGB colour profile, or accidentally use another profile such as ProPhoto RGB or Adobe RGB? It is also worth checking that all your source images are set to the same colour temperature and tint -- usually they will not be if your camera is set to auto white balance. If they aren't, pick the average or best and ensure they are all set the same before exporting. For fixing up EXIF, exiftool is the one for the job, though it takes a bit to learn what the right options are. Alvesgaspar, if you view one of your source images (exported as JPG) in a browser and also this image in a browser, do they appear the same? If they do then we can't blame Hugin. Perhaps this is the colour Alvesgaspar saw or desires for the morning photo. It may still be worth experimenting with the RAW files for the tint (for green) or temperature (for blue coldness) to see if you prefer another. -- Colin (talk) 07:28, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- I only looked at the exif where it says 'Uncalibrated'. I didn't think of using the tools mentioned above, but I thought you could sort it out one way or the other. :-) --Cart (talk) 08:24, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Footnote: I have learned that the EXIF information ‘Uncalibrated’ is rather unreliable. If I save a photo in AdobeRGB colourspace (with Photoshop), the EXIF data also say ‘Uncalibrated’, only further examination reveals that it is indeed AdobeRGB. --Aristeas (talk)
- Cart, ah I didn't spot the "Color Space" tag. I only noticed that it has an embedded profile. And that is in fact what browsers do -- the "Color Space" EXIF tag is ignored by web browsers. Aristeas, this EXIF tag only has two values: sRGB or uncalibrated. A photo exported in any colour space other than sRGB should set this tag to uncalibrated (and embed the profile). So this makes me a little suspicious that Alvesgaspar's individual photos might have been exported with a colour space other than sRGB, even though the final image claims it is sRGB in the embedded profile. But it also could just be that Hugin lost the tag. I do seem to recall, when I used Hugin in the past, that it could get confused with colour spaces. -- Colin (talk) 09:05, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Colin, thank you for the explanation of the “Color Space” EXIF tag! --Aristeas (talk) 09:13, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose The sky looks too green for me. Not sure if that's to do with a technical issue with the photo or if the light simply was like this on that day, but the result is much the same.--Peulle (talk) 08:49, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral for now. The photo is fine, but like Lucas and Peulle I got the impression that the colours are off, they are too blue/green for me. (I have tried to apply misc. ICC colour profiles, e.g. sRGB, AdobeRGB etc., to the file to see if this does the trick, but it did not help.) --Aristeas (talk) 09:05, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support A well-composed panorama. 😄 ArionEstar 😜 12:50, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Llez (talk) 21:18, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per my comment above. The colors seem off. --Cart (talk) 13:55, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Cart. Daniel Case (talk) 16:40, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - If the colors are off, it wouldn't make sense to feature the photo, so I've crossed out my supporting vote for now. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:25, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- I withdraw my nomination I'll try to fix it later, if fixable. No time to do it now! -- Alvesgaspar (talk) 07:43, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 9 support, 5 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /– Lucas 13:05, 13 May 2019 (UTC)