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File:PG Girl with strawberries.jpg, not featured
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Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 3 Jan 2011 at 22:41:47 (UTC)
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Info created by Prokudin-Gorskii - uploaded by Gorgo - nominated by Sasha Krotov -- Sasha Krotov (talk) 22:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC)- Color photo taken in 1909. Same girl is shown in another featured picture - File:Prokudin-Gorskii-08.jpg,
Support -- Sasha Krotov (talk) 22:41, 25 December 2010 (UTC) - Support for now Looks pretty good for and 102-year-old picture, even though this same image almost definitely wouldn't pass if taken today. --IdLoveOne (talk) 05:59, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Question Is it an autochrome ? --Jebulon (talk) 11:18, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Strong support Very old color photo. Very good --George Chernilevsky talk 14:38, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Oppose IMO Oversaturated.--Snaevar (talk) 14:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
Comment: I have taken a look at the Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky category (author of the image) and all the images seem a bit oversaturated. Most probably due to the technique of taking the picture: Three-color process. If this is so the image can not be punished for the limitations of early photography.--Garrondo (talk) 17:26, 26 December 2010 (UTC)- Question How can one tell whether it's oversaturated? The reference here should not be whether it looks natural today, but how paper copies of it looked back in 1909. -- H005 18:16, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
- Comment a histogram analysis can do the trick. a more convincing attempt to check for oversaturation is the digital colour composite as reference to what we can see here. regards, PETER WEIS TALK 10:09, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose with sorry. I was to support, but this one is very similar to the already featured you mentioned, same girl, the same plate with strawberries is just in other hands, three girls instead of one, different background. I think the second one is better, and I disagree with featuring two pictures of the same subject. But obviously, I have nothing to say against the quality of a 1909 color picture. Thanks for make me (us ?) discovering this photographer I didn't know. Beware that the Library of Congress has digitalized about 2000 colored plaques from this author, and all could be feature-able. Should we ? If yes, in my opinion, maybe should we chose first other subjects from this author ... BTW, I have added a french translation and a link to the french WP in the creator template, and no, it is not "autochrome", but very interesting technics too.--Jebulon (talk) 18:46, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
- Comment Regarding the subject of oversaturation. According to Libary of Congress photo description (this image comes from there), this image has been digitally colored from a glass negitive. As Garrando pointed out, saturation is a problem that can occour during coloring of pictures. Thus, I don´t belive that my voting on this photo has been too harsh, since it targets clearly the coloring process, but not the original.--Snaevar (talk) 02:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose this digital rendering has hardly anything to do with the impression of the original colour composite. mr frankhauser had a rather artistic attempt to render and adjust the digital versions of the glass plate negatives. some images benefit from this treatment but this certainly doesn't. you may notice the issue of colour saturation or the fixing of technical problems (aligning damaged glass plate negatives will result in green, red and yellow blemishes) - the house in the background has richer colours in the digital colour composite and got a sepia touch in this rendering. if looking closer on the head of this girl and comparing rendering and composite you might as well notice a effect similar to the outcome of CA. creating an own rendering of the b/w triple frames and performing a proper restoration is worth a try - alas very time consuming and not achievable for all 1902 pictures available for this method. regards, PETER WEIS TALK 10:09, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 3 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 06:39, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
