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Info created by Sergey Prokudin-Gorsky - uploaded by Алексей Скрипник - nominated by Tomer T -- Tomer T (talk) 09:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Support "Lev Tolstoy in Yasnaya Polyana", 1908, the first color photo portrait in Russia. -- Tomer T (talk) 09:10, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment Obviously a very valuable image in a whole bunch of ways, but what's the advantage in making the photo bigger than the original, other than because small photos usually can't be FPs? Also, why is it a good idea to decrease the saturation and contrast so much? Is the point to show Tolstoy as much as possible as we think he really looked in the photo or to respect the processes and results that produced this image and use a digital file that's as close as possible to the appearance of the original photo as possible? I think it should be the latter. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I understand your comment, Ikan? It looks like the latest version is taken from a Russian museum website, so is likely to be better resolution with faithful colours. Of course, users shouldn't have overwritten the file, nobody seems to read those instructions. It wasn't a user who changed the size/saturation. -- Colin (talk) 13:15, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment I see, thanks for clarifying the source, but the photo on the linked site looks much smaller than the Commons version. Also, let's see what kind of response A.Savin's points get. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:30, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'd love to support, but I'm really not sure if the colours and contrast are faithful. It's quite possible that the more colourful version is closer to the original; many photos by SPG appear well saturated. --A.Savin 16:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support For now. Daniel Case (talk) 20:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Question A voter on En:Wiki FPC suggests this is taken from a print copy. Is that so? 21:05, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Charles, could you please check your signatures when you edit. You have a habit of dropping half of them. I often fix this for you, but it would be nice if you made sure they are complete. Thanks! --Cart (talk) 21:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- Comment IMHO the image looks like scanned from a printed (halftone) image and then smoothed to reduce the visibility of the halftone dots. The bright areas in the background show the slight moiré (“Rosettenbildung”) which typically occurs when smoothing a scanned halftone print. In Tolstoy’s face and on his clothes you can also see traces of the halftone dots – they first look like film grain, but IMHO their arrangement is far too regular for film grain, so I guess these are halftone dots. (Sorry if my explanation is unclear – I did not find a dictionary which provides exact English equivalents of the German technical terms I am used to, and Google & Cº do not know these words, too.) --Aristeas (talk) 09:05, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- The German language has a lot of specific words connected to printing that don't exist in other languages. However In this case, I made a guess that this might be called something like 'rosetting' in English and lo and behold: Rosette, this picture is a good explanation for it.. --Cart (talk) 09:25, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly. In the Tolstoy image the Rosettenbildung is not as prominent as in the cited explanation because the halftone dots have been smoothed after scanning, but in the bright parts of the background you can find the same rhombus structure, similar to an unsharp wire netting. Thank you very much, Cart! --Aristeas (talk) 09:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Oppose, sadly, much worse quality than, for example, File:Dagestani man and woman.jpg (also, its not the first color portrait in Russia) --Andrei (talk) 12:36, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I withdraw my nomination Tomer T (talk) 14:04, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
