Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Bigfin reef squid (11760).jpg

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•  Info all by — Rhododendrites ^talk |  16:57, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support — Rhododendrites ^talk |  16:57, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --Cmao20 (talk) 22:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support -- Johann Jaritz (talk) 03:43, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 06:41, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment I'm concerned this is one of those images we're seeing a lot of where the subject has been aggressively sharpened and the background aggressively smoothed. Which is fine to a point, but perhaps not if it gives a strange impression of what it looks like in the tank of water. Does it really have that grainy texture round its eye, or is that just sharpened noise? The grain wouldn't be a problem if it affected the whole image, but if we smooth the background, we are sort of saying that the squid is grainy. Is it? There's a strange echo line on the rear of its left fin. What do you think that is? -- Colin (talk) 07:49, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --XRay ^talk 10:46, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Question What do you think caused all the horizontal lines in the upper right corner? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:53, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
  •  Question And the white pixels in the same region --Llez (talk) 12:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment @Colin, Ikan Kekek, and Llez: The original version before sharpening/denoising/other adjustments were applied is in the file history if you're curious. As to how much sharpening (or denoising) is appropriate for such an image, I feel like there's often a preference to err on the side of oversharpening some kinds of animals at FPC. I'll admit some ignorance about this one in particular as this is one of the only pictures I've taken at an aquarium (or of anything in water) that I've liked enough to try go through with the post-processing. The faint lines in the top-right are just good ol' iso banding (dark, and need a high shutter for the always-moving squid). And the white specks are just things in the water that were probably reduced by sharpening.

So I've uploaded two new versions (before reverting to the originally nominated version for now): The first one redoes the denoising to better address the iso banding, and does not do any additional sharpening. the second version takes a somewhat less aggressive sharpening approach with this revised denoising. Thoughts? — Rhododendrites ^talk |  17:27, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

I prefer the denoised one without sharpening. But in your processing, you seem to have lost some colour from the squid, which had red (round the eye) and turquoise and some brown on its head. Did you apply a huge amount of chroma NR or desaturate some colours? I wonder also if it is lightened too much, bleaching colour. I don't think the sharpening is an improvement, just giving a gritty illusion to satisfy pixel peeping. Wrt specks in the water, I don't see a problem with eliminating them much like removing sensor dust spots -- they aren't the subject and are just transitory. -- Colin (talk) 12:24, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

• •  Question Why didn't you remove the white dots? --Llez (talk) 07:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
    • In the two alternative versions that aren't subject to the same sharpening, so shouldn't be reduced to a dot. I mean, they're still basically dots, but they're things floating in the water. I can do it, of course, but in the middle of a discussion about a realistic depiction I wouldn't assume remove the specks floating in water. Does that make sense? — Rhododendrites ^talk |  07:46, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --StellarHalo (talk) 23:56, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --The Cosmonaut (talk) 01:23, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
• Rhododendrites, I think I have a slight preference for the first alternate version, but I'm noticing what looks like a halo to the left of the tentacles in both versions, though this is much more prominent in the version that was nominated. But perhaps that's something natural? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:05, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Comment Ok. New version uploaded. I think this addresses the various concerns. It is denoised, not sharpened, with little specks removed, and some selective chromatic issues reduced. What it does not address is the halo to the left of the tentacles and elsewhere. I have to think this is part of the animal, as there's no selective masking and the shutter it doesn't quite look like blur or chromatic aberration. Let's call this version final now. Pinging voters/commenters: @Colin, Ikan Kekek, Llez, The Cosmonaut, StellarHalo, XRay, Martin Falbisoner, Johann Jaritz, and Cmao20: . I suppose we'll see if there really is a preference for extra sharpening. :) — Rhododendrites ^talk |  18:44, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support and thanks for your extra efforts. I hope you are happy with the "final version". -- Colin (talk) 18:56, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support per Colin. I like that I can really feel the presence of this clever animal looking at the photographer. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:15, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --Ivar (talk) 09:17, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 11:51, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support. Meiræ 20:46, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:46, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support --Cayambe (talk) 13:45, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
•  Support Daniel Case (talk) 16:57, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Confirmed results:

Result: 15 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:22, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

This image will be added to the FP gallery: Animals#Class_:_Cephalopoda