Commons:Bots/Requests/RobotMichiel1972

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RobotMichiel1972 (talk · contribs)

Operator: Michiel1972 (talk)

Automatic or Manually Assisted: depends on my project, while adding cats:automatically

Programming Language(s): pywiki, commonist (java)

Edit period(s) (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): depends on project

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): y

Functions: mass upload (user created) maps or diagrams; additional categorization

Bot's maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute): depends on project

Discussion

Previous discussion
Could you please describe planned tasks for bot? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:42, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I expect to add categories as main task. Michiel1972 (talk) 15:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As the first bot request following an update of Commons:Bots, could you please add to the bot's userpage the following information?
    • Who the creator/operator is and how they can best be contacted
    • Details of the bot's task or tasks
    • Whether the bot is manually assisted or runs automatically
    • When it operates (continuously, intermittently, or at specified intervals)
    • The bot's maximum edit rate (eg edits per minute)
    • The language and/or program that it is running.
Also, could you please fill in the new section I have added above (the bot's maximum editing speed)? Thanks. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 17:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Declined. No reponse to queries for a week in spite of two requests on user's talk page (user has been active during that period). --MichaelMaggs (talk) 11:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reopened the request. Trusted user, won't break Commons. Just flag the bot. Multichill (talk) 19:35, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A bot flag is wanted in order not to overflow the recent changes list while uploading large numbers of 14kb files. Michiel1972 (talk) 12:18, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Bot's uploads looks OK for me. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:45, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(1) What do you plan to upload ("mass upload (user created) maps or diagrams")? How many?
(2) Are they all going to look like File:Population - Municipality code 68205.svg ?
(3) Not too long ago, we nuked thousands of similar diagrams.
(4) Why don't they include the name of the municipality? (5) Could you add a description in French? --  Docu  at 06:54, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(1) This project contains 36.000 svg of which 6000 to do yet. Michiel1972 (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(2) Yes (for this project).
(3) I prefer simple svg graphs instead of ugly timeline-based graphs. Note that the actual size of the 36.000 graphs is less than 10 high resolution pictures, so it 'costs' almost nothing. In addition, the reason for starting this project is that the graphs include an update of the 2008 population values which are not available yet on the (Dutch) wikipedia. So it serves as an update of the degraded timeline graphs together with 2008 census values. Michiel1972 (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(4) The municipality name is included on the svg (although very small, since they are placed directly on municipality articles itself). The dedicated description is not possible for me (now). Michiel1972 (talk) 12:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(4) I hadn't noticed that, e.g. File:Population - Municipality code 68205.svg included "Meyenheim", but could you add it to the description as well as Special:Search/File: Meyenheim doesn't find the image.
The description would need {{en|1=}} around the English part. I'm sure you could find someone at Commons:Bistro to translate that one line. --  Docu  at 12:54, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I know how it ideally should be, but it is for me technically not possible to include that in the commonist upload description automatically at the moment, sorry. I can add that later if needed. Michiel1972 (talk) 10:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please use a valid dateformat so that it is automatically recognized as a date and translated in all other languages. This means using YYYY-MM-DD (or YYYY-MM) where possible, and otherwise {{Other date}}. Otherwise non-English readers will see "february 2011". It would be awesome if you could apply this retroactively for the files already uploaded. Thanks, –Krinkletalk 19:46, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In one way or the other, the file description pages should include the name of the municipality. You might want to use pywikibot instead or find another bot operator that would fix the file descriptions after upload. --  Docu  at 15:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How long will it take to process this request? It is unbelievable, such a bureacratic process for a voluntary task. Michiel1972 (talk) 19:56, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have you dealt with Krinkle's dateformat issue? --99of9 (talk) 01:45, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Support, the name of the municipality would be useful, but it is not strictly necessary since these images will be added/updated via bot and the municipality name can be added in the future, along with the municipality category, using the municipality code. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 09:20, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please can you provide a link in the image description to the source data? I also think the municipality name is crucial, why get humans to make 36000 edits when a bot could look them up from a list (which must exist somewhere?). --99of9 (talk) 01:09, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment It seems that Michiel1972 could not wait until this request is over. The bot was started by him. I have blocked the bot. An admin will unblock it if this request has come to a positive end. --High Contrast (talk) 23:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment His frustration at the extreme delay is very understandable. But I would like to see a plan for municipality names before the run is completed. --99of9 (talk) 07:46, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment We have already used thousands of these files on svwiki. It would be much harder to find them if their name not included the municipality-code. The insee-code is of great value in all projects, while the municipality-name is only of help when the local name is identical to the foreign names. -- Lavallen 07:15, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, but why not have both in the description? That way search engines will find these files better. --99of9 (talk) 07:37, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I can promise you, if you find it an essential requirement, I will supply the muncipality name in the file description afterwards, in a separate bot run. Michiel1972 (talk) 12:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have started something like that here. May I proceed? -- Lavallen 17:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. Could you wrap the English in {{en|...}} at the same time? --99of9 (talk) 22:53, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done, but I have not checked if the set of french commune-articles on enwp is a well-defined set. The source of this work is the use of these files on svwiki, and the interwiki from these articles. I then feel safe in the use on svwiki and the interwiki to frwiki, but not always to enwiki. -- Lavallen 06:05, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, an interwiki link isn't necessarily going to work. I just meant the language tags in the description. --99of9 (talk) 06:28, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have now wraped the en-template around the original description of 'RobotMichiel1972'. -- Lavallen 07:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, a separate bot run to improve the descriptions addresses the remaining concern. Unless there are any objections, let's approve the bot so it can finish the run. --99of9 (talk) 12:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have blocked the bot yesterday. Let's reactivate it. --High Contrast (talk) 13:10, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
So can you not unblock then? Michiel1972 (talk) 18:45, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
User:99of9 is able to do this, too. It seems that he is more involved in this issue. --High Contrast (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There are uploads from last year that are still in their raw form, e.g. File:Map canton code 97 497.svg --  Docu  at 21:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Unblocked so he can continue with his job. Trijnsteltalk 15:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The 'upload' job is finished. I start with adding commune names to the map files. A bot flag may be usefull in order to hide these changes from 'recent changes'. And for my future projects or any other bot corrections. Michiel1972 (talk) 20:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I am approving this bot. However, I do ask that you concentrate on improving the descriptions soon, the new uploads have similarly poor descriptions. --99of9 (talk) 05:56, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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