Commons:Requests and votes/Arniep

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I have been a commons user since October 2005, with over 500 edits. I think I have a good idea of the rules and policies here, and hope to be able to help out with some of the backlog of images that are tagged no source and speedy delete and with other admin tasks. Arniep 13:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: One doesn't start off well with an RFA if one immediately reverts an admin. Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 23:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That image is British Crown Copyright and as far as I am aware we cannot use these on Commons (the user who placed the license falsely tagged many other images). Arniep 23:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, Bas, what's your point? You didn't exactly provide a rationale for your action yourself. To me it looked like Arniep's speedy-tag was in order - the photo has been here since Oct 2005 and is still without a source. Keep in mind that Administrator access is not meant to imply editorial authority on the project.. cheers, --Lumijaguaari (моє обговорення) 23:38, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I did explain my action, on Arniep's talk page. Furthermore, we're trying to establish trustworthiness among the projects and this is not going to happen if we start deleting images and leaving redlines on Wikipedia pages. There's more work required in removing images than just clicking delete, and anyone that wants to run for Admin at Commons needs to understand this. Cary "Bastique" Bass parler voir 02:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I did say that I intended to replace the image on all the projects. A problem with removing images before they are deleted is that other users will often restore the image creating much more trouble than there would be if it was clear that the image had been deleted. Arniep 09:53, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
When you are removing the image, you should of course give an explanation and giving a link to your Commons userpage is a good idea if you don't have an account in that project. You can use my translations for edit summaries. They state quite clearly what the problem is. If a local user is foolish enough to put an image back in, when we delete the image, then they will get a redlink. That's fine, that's their problem. But we can't leave redlinks in the first place. pfctdayelise (translate?) 00:26, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks that's a useful page. Arniep 01:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well I feel very sad that I don't seem to be getting any support here, merely because I restored a speedy delete notice for an image that should have been deleted long ago. There are currently over 1400 images excluding articles in the speedy deletion category, many of which have been there a considerable amount of time. Unless the speedy delete category is dealt with in a much more effective way then people will continue to abuse the system as many users believe if an image is on Commons then it must be free and users will continue to upload violations in the knowledge that the image may be there a considerable amount of time before it is deleted when they will come back and upload it again knowing it will again take a long time to be deleted. Arniep 15:10, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I see nothing wrong with his above actions. Images should be tagged as nsd, regardless of whether they are in use or not. But that debate is beside the point here. ed g2s • talk 15:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It was actually a speedy delete as all copy vios can be tagged as such. Arniep 16:10, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support British crown copyright can't be used on Commons. I find User:Bastique's rationale for the contrary distinctly unconvincing, since it's an awfully minor issue; isn't it the responsibility of the deleting admin to check for links from other projects?

    Anyway, for the record, I'm mainly active on en:w, not Commons, and have very few edits here. Just chipping in my opinion, discount if you like. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 04:49, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked Template:Speedydelete and it states "consider checking usage of this file on all Wikimedia projects before deleting.".
As only admins can delete, the template does seem to indicate presently that only admins should check before deleting, not that non admins must check before tagging as Bastique stated. So I feel, really, that Bastique's criticism was rather unjustified. Arniep 10:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Seems willing to take criticism on board, is happy to follow the right procedure. Therefore I am confident any misunderstandings with this user will be resolved quickly and this is exactly the type of behaviour an admin should have. Also eagerness to delete speedies = ++good. (But please put Commons:Babel boxes on your user or usertalk page.) pfctdayelise (translate?) 10:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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